The Mamas & The Papas
Mama Cass Elliot ♦ John Phillips ♦ Denny Doherty 

Where it all began

Denny Doherty was a member of a Canadian folk group The Halifax Three (3 45s/2 LPs) They played Carnegie Hall (with Zal Yanovsky on guitar). Meanwhile in Los Angeles, John Phillips, Scott McKenzie, and Dick Weisman formed The Journeymen (6 45s/3 LPs). About the same time in New York City, there was a group called The Big Three which consisted of Cass Elliot, Tim Rose, and Jim Hendricks (4 45s/2 LPs).
Tim Rose went solo and Cass and Jim joined up with Canadians Zal and Denny to form The Mugwumps (1 45/1 LP of studio scraps released in 1967). After getting nowhere, Cass and Denny joined up with John and his wife Michelle to form The Mamas & The Papas. Zally would hook up with part-time Mugwump and session harmonica player John Sebastian to form The Lovin' Spoonful. Jim Hendricks formed The Lamp Of Childhood and wrote hit songs (Summer Rain).

For a musical version of this story, listen to Creeque Alley. For a detailed history of the Villlage folk scene in the 60s, see Pete Frame's More Rock Family Trees book for a four-page chart (with a few more branches). Below are representative singles by these four groups, along with links to their other recordings.

Gotta Start Somewhere...

The Halifax Three
The Man Who Wouldn't Sing Along With Mitch / Come Down The Mountain Katie Daly
Grean-Hertz (2:09) / O'Shea (2:51)
Epic 5-9572, 2/63


The Journeymen
Rag Mama / I Never Will Marry
McKenzie-Phillips-Traum-Weissman (1:50) / Hellerman (2:47)
Capitol 4943, 3/63


The Big Three
The Banjo Song / Winkin' Blinkin' And Nod
Rose (1:56) / Field-Simon (2:55)
FM FM-3003, 9/63


The Mugwumps
I Don't Wanna Know / I'll Remember Tonight
Beecham-Rowberry (2:07) / Andrews (2:06)
Warner Bros 5471, 9/64



California Dreamin' / Somebody Groovy
Phillips-M Phillips (2:37) / Phillips (3:06)
Dunhill 4020, 11/65 T20 UK

Monday, Monday / Got A Feelin'
Phillips (3:09) / Doherty-Phillips (2:44)
Dunhill 4026, 1/66  #1  T20


If You Can Believe Your Eyes And Ears
Dunhill DS-50006
2/66  #1  RS500 [UK: 6/66] T20
"Cleaned up" cover

Quickly reissued because you can't show a toilet on the cover, ya know!
"What bathroom?" cover

Also issued with this stupid cover
Back Cover

UK Back Cover

Side One
Monday, Monday Phillips 3:03
Straight Shooter Phillips 2:55
Got A Feelin' Doherty-Phillips 2:44
I Call Your Name Lennon-McCartney 2:32
Do You Wanna Dance? Freeman 2:58
Go Where You Wanna Go Phillips 2:32
Side Two
California Dreamin' Phillips-M Phillips 2:32
Spanish Harlem Leiber-Spector 3:22
Somebody Groovy Phillips 3:06
Hey Girl Phillips-M Phillips 2:21
You Baby Barri-Sloan 2:15
The "In" Crowd Page 3:10
Denny Doherty-vocals, guitar
John Phillips-vocals, guitar
Michelle Phillips-vocals
Cass Elliot-vocals
P F Sloan-guitar, vocals
Larry Knechtel-keyboards
Joe Osborne-bass
Hal Blaine-percussion
Bud Shank-flute (California Dreamin')
Peter Pilafian-violin
§Cover Photo-Guy Webster
Produced by: Lou Adler


No Salt On Mama Jill's Tail

For years, M&P fans have argued over whether temporary Mama Jill Gibson's vocals are on their second album (below)

Using this SHMF thread as a starting point, here's what's what with that.

Michelle was fired in June because of having an affair with Byrd Gene Clark (4th or 28th). Lou Adler then hired Jill Gibson (a singer he'd worked with) as a full-time replacement and went about recording their next album to be called Crashon Screamon All Fall Down. Tracks for the album were recorded on 4-track recorders at Western Studios. Following a brief tour, Lou decided that Michelle should be brought back (in late August—strictly a biz move). And Mama Jill was no more. They even re-shot their appearance on the Sept 17 The Hollywood Palace TV show (was with Jill).

The original cover (with Michelle in the lower right corner) was first altered to have a similarily posed Jill replace her. Didn't work out, so a new cover was shot (see note 2 below). Some advanced pressings were issued, but nobody seems to have ever seen a real copy since 1966.

Because of the recording techniques used back in the dark ages, they could not simply replace Jill's vocals (not to mention the cost). From what the SHMF detectives have sussed out, she appears on six tracks (plus one held over for Deliver). Michelle did overdubs on two of those (Strange Young Girls and That Kind Of Girl).
I Saw Her Again³ / Even If I Could
Doherty-Phillips (2:50) / Phillips (2:40)
Dunhill 4031, 6/66 T20 T20


Michelle fired in Jun

Jill hired

The Mamas And The Papas
Dunhill DS-50010
8/66 T20 [UK: 1/67] UK
Back Cover

Earlier cover

Cover with temporary Mama Jill Gibson. Note different title!
Side One
No Salt On Her Tail Phillips 2:35
Trip, Stumble And Fall† Gilliam-Phillips 2:35
Dancing Bear† Phillips 4:08
Words Of Love Phillips 2:13
My Heart Stood Still Rodgers-Hart 1:43
Dancing In The Street Gaye-Hunter-Stevenson 3:00
Side Two
I Saw Her Again Doherty-Phillips 2:50
Strange Young Girls† Phillips 2:45
I Can't Wait† Phillips 2:40
Even If I Could† Phillips 2:40
That Kind Of Girl† Phillips 2:20
Once Was A Time I Thought Phillips :58
Denny Doherty-vocals, guitar
John Phillips-vocals, guitar
Michelle Phillips-vocals
Cass Elliot-vocals
Jill Gibson-vocals†
Doctor Eric Hord-guitar
Tommy Tedesco-guitar
Larry Knectel-organ, piano
Ray Manzarek-organ (No Salt On Her Tail) [Uncredited]
Joe Osborne-bass
Hal Blaine-drums
Peter Palafain-electric violin
Marty Paich-orchestrations (Words Of Love and Look Through My Window)
§Cover Art- Guy Webster
Produced by: Lou Adler

Note: New text box esplains ev'ryting

Jill fired in late Aug

Michelle re-hired

Look Through My Window / Once Was A Time I Thought
Phillips (3:05) / Phillips (1:01)
Dunhill 4050, 9/66 BB

Words Of Love / Dancing In The Street³
Phillips (2:13) / Gaye-Stevenson (2:59)
Dunhill 4057, 11/66 T20 UK / BB

The Ed Sullivan Show: 12/11/66,
Monday, Monday, California Dreamin', Words of Love
Dedicated To The One I Love / Free Advice
Bass-Pauling (2:56) / Phillips-Phillips (3:15)
Dunhill 4077, 2/67 T20 T20


Dunhill DS-50014
2/67 T20 [UK: 6/67] T20
Back Cover

Side One
Dedicated To The One I Love Bass-Pauling 2:56
My Girl Robinson-White 2:35
Creeque Alley Phillips-M Phillips [as M Gillian] 3:45
Sing For Your Supper Rodgers-Hart 2:46
Twist And Shout Medley-Russell 2:45
Free Advice Phillips-M Phillips [as M Gillian] 3:15
Side Two
Look Through My Window Phillips 3:05
Boys And Girls Together Phillips 3:15
String Man Phillips-M Phillips [as M Gillian] 2:59
Frustration Phillips 2:50
Did You Ever Want To Cry† Phillips 2:53
John's Music Box Phillips 1:00
Denny Doherty-vocals, guitar
John Phillips-vocals, guitar
Michelle Phillips-vocals
Cass Elliot-vocals
Jill Gibson-vocals†
"Doctor" Eric Hord-guitar
P F Sloan-guitar
Larry Knechtel-keyboards
Joe Osborn-bass guitar
Hal Blaine-drums, percussion
Gary Coleman-percussion, bells, marimba
Jim Horn-flute, saxophone
John Sebastian-harmonica (Creeque Alley) [uncredited]
§Cover Art- Guy Webster
Produced by: Lou Adler


TV Guide Close-up

=KGO, San Francisco
ABC Stage 67: "Rodgers & Hart Today" 3/2/67, ABC
With Bobby Darin, Pet Clark & Count Basie. John loved stage musicals (see below)
Creeque Alley¹ / Did You Ever Wanna Cry
Phillips-M Phillips (3:49) / Phillips (2:53)
Dunhill 4083, 4/67 T20 T20

This mix of Creeque Alley has horns
The Ed Sullivan Show: 6/11/67,
Dedicated To The One I Love, Creeque Alley
Monterey International Pop Festival(6/18/67)
Note: Concert released by Dunhill in 1971.
Twelve Thirty (Young Girls Are Coming To The Canyon) / Straight Shooter
Phillips (3:20) / Phillips (2:55)
Dunhill 4099, 8/67 T20

The Ed Sullivan Show: 9/24/67,
Twelve Thirty (Young Girls Are Coming to the Canyon),
medley: Monday, Monday/I Call Your Name/California Dreamin'
Farewell To The First Golden Era
Farewell To The First Golden Era

Dunhill DS-50025, 10/67 BB [UK: 12/67]
no unique tracks
Glad To Be Unhappy / Hey Girl
Rodgers-Hart (1:40) / Phillips-M Phillips (2:21)
Dunhill 4107, 10/67 BB

10/30/67: Royal Albert Hall, London
Concert was cancelled—NME and MM report po'd fans
Dancing Bear / John's Music Box
Phillips (3:07) / Phillips (1:00)
Dunhill 4113, 11/67 BB


Present The Papas And The Mamas
Dunhill DS-50031
4/68 T20 [UK: 9/68]
Back Cover

Inside Cover

Flip Cover in action!

Side One
The Right Somebody To Love(Michelle solo) Temple :34
Safe In My Garden Phillips 3:10
Meditation Mama (Transcendental Woman Travels) Adler-Phillips 4:19
For The Love Of Ivy Doherty-Phillips 3:40
Dream A Little Dream Of Me Andre-Kahn-Schwendt 3:14
Mansions Phillips 3:43
Side Two
[The Right Somebody To Love](Michelle solo) Temple :20
Gemini Childe Phillips 4:05
Nothing's Too Good For My Little Girl Wynn 3:05
Too Late Phillips 4:07
Twelve-Thirty (Young Girls Are Coming To The Canyon) Phillips 3:22
Rooms Phillips 2:45
Midnight Voyage Phillips 3:11
Denny Doherty-vocals, guitar
John Phillips-vocals, guitar
Michelle Phillips-vocals
Cass Elliot-vocals
"Doctor" Eric Hord-guitar
Larry Knechtel-keyboards
Joe Osborne-bass
Hal Blaine-percussion
Paul Downing-guitar (Rooms)
John York-bass (Rooms)
§Cover Photos-Tad Diltz
Produced by: Lou Adler

Note: Came with a split front gatefold cover. See note to view.
The Right Somebody To Love is credited to Shirley Temple, who debuted the song in the 1936 film Captain January.
It was written by Lew Pollack and Jack Yellen. The second verse (unlisted) leads off side two.

Safe In My Garden / Too Late
Phillips (3:10) / Phillips (4:07)
Dunhill 4125, 5/68 BB

Dream A Little Dream Of Me / Midnight Voyage
Andre-Kahn-Schwant (3:14) / Philips (3:11)
Dunhill 4145, 6/68 T20 T20

as by Mama Cass with The Mamas & The Papas
For The Love Of Ivy / Strange Young Girls
Doherty-Phillips (3:40) / Phillips (2:45)
ABC-Dunhill 4150, 7/68 BB

Everybody goes their separate ways (with one contract-required album to go...)
Golden Era Vol 2
Golden Era Vol 2

Dunhill DS-50038, 9/68 BB [UK: 12/68]
includes non-Lp 45 track Glad To Be Unhappy

Dream A Little Dream
Dunhill DS-50040
9/68 BB [UK: 12/68]
Back Cover

Side One
Dream A Little Dream Of Me Andre-Kahn-Schwant 3:24
California Earthquake Hartford 2:42
The Room Nobody Lives In† Sebastian 2:38
Talkin' To Your Toothbrush Simon 2:19
Blues For Breakfast Manuel 2:56
You Know Who I Am Cohen 3:57
Side Two
Rubber Band† Faryar 3:17
Long Time Loving You Scharf 1:59
Jane, The Insane Dog Lady Simon 2:00
What Was I Thinking Of Cohen 3:50
Burn Your Hatred Nash 2:25
Sweet Believer Faryar 4:55
Cass Elliot-vocals
Cyrus Faryar-guitar, ukulele
James Burton-guitar (What Was I Thinking Of
John Sebastian-guitar, harmonica (What Was I Thinking Of)
Stephen Stills-guitar
Paul Harris-organ, piano
John Simon-piano
Harvey Brooks-bass
Jim Gordon-drums
Plas Johnson-saxophone, flute (Blues For Breakfast, You Know Who I Am)
Phil & Oona Austin-voices, effects
Renais Faryar-voices†
Brenda Holloway & The Blossoms-backing vocals (Blues For Breakfast, You Know Who I Am)
§Cover Photo-Henry Diltz
Produced by: John Simon

Note: Dream A Little Dream (the song) is The Mamas & The Papas recording with sound effects created by Phil Austin (of the
mighty Firesign Theatre) added to beginning and end (and into California Earthquake).

Do You Wanna Dance? / My Girl
Freeman (2:58) / Robinson (3:35)
ABC-Dunhill 4171, 10/68 BB

California Earthquake / Talkin' To Your Toothbrush
Hartford (2:40) / Simon (2:19)
ABC-Dunhill 4166, 10/68 BB

Monterey Pop(12/26/68)
First and best rockumentary on festivals
Move In A Little Closer, Baby / All For Me¹
Capitanelli-O'Conner (2:37) / Price-Wright (1:50)
ABC-Dunhill 4184, 2/69 BB

Crosby (from The Byrds), Stills (from Buffalo Springfield) and Nash (from The Hollies)
meet at Mama Cass' house in Laurel Canyon and start singin'...
It's Getting Better / Who's To Blame
Mann-Weill (2:56) / Kunkel (2:55)
ABC-Dunhill 4195, 5/69 BB T20

"The Mama Cass Television Program": I Shall Be Released ," 6/26/69,
Mama Cass, Mary Travers, and Joni Mitchel in a beautiful live rendition.

Bubblegum, Lemonade And.. Something For Mama
Dunhill DS-50055
6/69 BB [UK: 11/69]
Back Cover

Reissue Cover

Reissue Back Cover

Side One
It's Getting Better Mann-Weil 3:01
Move In A Little Closer, Baby Capitanelli-O'Conner 2:39
Easy Come, Easy Go Hildebrand-Keller 2:45
Blow Me A Kiss Carone 2:50
He's A Runner Nyro 3:38
Welcome To The World English-Segal 2:19
Side Two
I Can Dream, Can't I Fain-Kahal 2:34
Sour Grapes Ghent 2:31
Lady Love Bramlett 3:03
When I Just Wear My Smile Lane-Puilcy 2:22
Who's To Blame Kunkel 2:59
Cass Elliot-vocals
Mike Deasy-guitar
Ben Benay-guitar, harmonica
Larry Knechtel-keyboards
Joe Osborn-bass
Hal Blaine-drums, percussion
Red Rhodes-steel guitar
Jimmy Haskell-accordion, arranger
§Cover Photo-Henry Diltz
Produced by: Steve Barri

Note: reissued as Make Your Own Kind Of Music (11/69), with hit song added, tracks rearranged

John Phillips was so inspired by the moon landing that he wrote a musical !! 
Make Your Own Kind Of Music / Lady Love
Mann-Weill (2:25) / Bramlett (3:04)
ABC-Dunhill 4214, 10/69 BB


John, The Wolf King Of L A
Dunhill DS-50077
1/25/70 BB [UK: 6/70]
Back Cover

Side One
April Anne Phillips 3:20
Topanga Canyon Phillips 3:51
Malibu People Phillips 3:39
Someone's Sleeping Phillips 2:43
Drum Phillips
Side Two
Captain Phillips 3:23
Let It Bleed, Genevieve Phillips 2:52
Down The Beach Phillips 2:51
Mississippi Phillips 3:35
Holland Tunnel Phillips 3:41
John Phillips-guitar, harmonica, vocals
James Burton-lead guitar, dobro
David Cohen-guitar
Dr Eric Hord-guitar
Buddy Emmons-steel guitar
Red Rhodes-steel guitar
Gordon Terry-fiddle
Larry Knechtel-keyboards
Joe Osborne-bass
Hal Blaine-drums
Darlene Love, Fanita James, Jean King-vocals
§Cover Photo-Tom Gundelfinger
Produced by: Lou Adler


New World Coming / Blow Me A Kiss
Mann-Weill (2:12) / Carone (2:50)
ABC-Dunhill 4225, 1/70 BB

A Gathering Of Flowers
A Gathering Of Flowers

ABC/Dunhill DSY-50073, 3/70 [UK: ?/70]
no unique tracks

Note: A Gathering Of Flowers could be considered the first rock/folk retrospective box set. First issues came in a box, with a 16-page
booklet included (see it at 45worlds ). John & Michelle discuss each song prior to listening. Lyric sheet included.

Mississippi² / April Anne²
Phillips (2:59) / Phillips (3:10)
Dunhill 4236, 4/70 BB

Mama Cass / Jack Wild
Different / If I Could (Main Title)

Fox-Gimbel (2:07) / Fox-Gimbel (2:49)
Capitol SPRO-5047, 5/70

DJ Promo, from the movie Pufnstuf
A Song That Never Comes² / I Can Dream, Can't I
Cashman-Pistilli-West (2:29) / Fain-Kahal (2:35)
ABC-Dunhill 4244, 7/70 BB

7th Big Sur Folk Festival(10/3/70) John Phillips
The Good Times Are Coming / Welcome To The World
Barry-David (2:18) / English-Siegell (2:53)
ABC-Dunhill 4253, 10/70

A-side from the movie Monte Walsh; promo picture sleeve
Don't Let The Good Life Pass You By² / A Song That Never Comes
Rucker (2:48) / Cashman-Pistilli-West (2:19)
ABC-Dunhill 4264, 11/70

The Ed Sullivan Show: 11/22/70,
Cass takes part in several sections on the Richard Rodgers tribute show
Cass Elliot to short partnership with Dave Mason  (2 45s, 1 Lp)
Brewster McCloud(12/23/70) John Phillips
Several unique Wolf King songs on the soundtrack album
The Costume Ball / same
Bergman-Bergman-Bernstein (2:35) / same
Dunhill USA D-4273, 2/71

from from the movie Doctors' Wives

Mama's Big Ones: Her Greatest Hits
Dunhill DS-50093
2/71 BB [UK: ?/71]
Back Cover

Side One
It's Getting Better Mann-Weil 2:59
Dream A Little Dream Of Me(Mamas & Papas track) Andre-Kahn-Schwandt 3:24
Make Your Own Kind Of Music Mann-Weil 2:25
Words Of Love(Mamas & Papas track) Phillips 2:13
New World Coming(non-LP 45) Mann-Weil 2:11
Move In A Little Closer, Baby Capitanelli-O'Connor 2:38
Side Two
One Way Ticket(prev unr) Hart-Lawrence 2:49
The Good Times Are Coming(non-LP 45) Barry-David 2:53
Easy Come, Easy Go Hildebrand-Keller 2:46
Don't Let The Good Life Pass You By(non-LP 45) Rucker 2:48
Ain't Nobody Else Like You(prev unr) Rucker 2:26
A Song That Never Comes(non-LP 45) Cashman-Pistilli-West 2:33

Note: Subtitle: Plus Some New Ones

Watcha Gonna Do / Gathering The Words
Doherty-Woodward (2:24) / Doherty-Woodward (4:10)
Dunhill ABC 4270, 2/71


Watcha Gonna Do
Dunhill DS-50096
2/71 [UK: ?/71]
Back Cover

Inside Cover

Side One
Watcha Gonna Do Doherty-Woodward 2:21
Neighbors Lapano-Woodward 3:49
Gathering The Words Doherty-Woodward 4:09
Don't You Be Fooled Doherty 2:46
Got A Feelin' Doherty-Phillips 3:26
Side Two
Tuesday Morning Doherty-Fischer-McGuire-Woodward 4:44
Still Can't Hear The Music Doherty-Woodward 2:53
Hey, Good Lookin' Williams 1:45
The Drummer's Song Fischer-Woodward 3:17
Here Comes The Sun/The Two Of Us Harrison/Lennon-McCartney 5:40
Denny Doherty-guitar, vocals
Eric Hord-guitar, sitar, banjo
Barry McGuire-guitar, harmonica
Eddy Fischer-guitar
Gabe Lapano-piano, organ, autoharp, vibraphone
Brian Garofalo-bass
Russ Kunkel-drums
Buddy Emmons-steel guitar
Jimmie Haskell-accordion, arrangements
Barry McGuire, Eddy Fischer, Eric Hord, Gabe Lapano, Linda Woodward, Peter Jacobs, Ralph Burris, Robert Paul Simone-backup vocals
§Cover Photo-Tom Wilkes, Inside Photo-Philip Melnick
Produced by: Bill Szymczyk

Note: some labels as Alone At Last

Historic Performances Recorded at the
Monterey International Pop Festival
Dunhill DSX-50100
3/71 [UK: N/R]
Back Cover

Inside Cover

Side One
Straight Shooter Phillips 3:10
Got A Feelin' Doherty-Phillips 4:01
California Dreamin' Phillips-M Phillips 2:47
Spanish Harlem Leiber-Spector 3:26
Side Two
Somebody Groovy Phillips 2:50
I Call Your Name Lennon-McCartney 6:03
Monday, Monday Phillips 3:12
Dancing In The Street Gaye-Hunter-Stevenson 3:26
John Phillips-guitar, vocals
Denny Doherty-vocals
Michelle Phillips-vocals
Mama Cass Elliot- vocals
Dr Eric Hord-guitar
Joe Osborne-bass
Larry Knechtel-keyboards
Fast Eddie Hoh-drums
Produced by: Lou Adler, John Phillips

Note: Recorded at Monterey International Pop Music Festival, June 18, 1967

People Like Us
Dunhill DSX-50106
10/71 BB [UK: 11/71]
Back Cover

Lyric Sheet

Lyric Sheet

Side One
People Like Us Phillips 3:25
Pacific Coast Highway Phillips 3:04
Snowqueen Of Texas Phillips 2:37
Shooting Star Phillips 2:54
Step Out Phillips 3:03
Lady Genevieve Phillips 3:48
Side Two
No Dough Phillips 3:05
European Blueboy Phillips 3:39
Pearl Phillips 2:24
I Wanna Be A Star M Phillips 2:17
Grasshopper Phillips 2:57
Blueberries For Breakfast Phillips 2:59
Denny Doherty-vocals, guitar
John Phillips-vocals, guitar, keyboards
Michelle Phillips-vocals
Cass Elliot-vocals
Louie Shelton-guitar
David Walker-guitar
Donald Peake-guitar
Clarence McDonald-keyboards
Joe Sample-keyboards
Tony Newton-bass
Earl Palmer-drums
Ed Greene-drums
Gary Coleman-bells, steel drums, shaker, tambourine, vibraphone
Bobbye Hall-cabasa, conga, shaker, tambourine
Jim Horn-flute, saxophone
§Cover Photo-Henry Diltz
Produced by: John Phillips

Note: Contractural obligation reunion, need we say more...Cass virtually mixed out of results


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